So this is the first time that my mom had come with us. Cuz I've gone twice before and on the last time my brother came with me, but today it was all three of us. And there was a flute, a viola, and a harp trio. And it was really fun. Like, in these concerts, they usually play a mix of, um, classical music and modern music. Like, stuff by contemporary, alive composers. So the big piece, the piece that I really like, was called Submerged. Um, it was by this -- Let's see. I have the, I have the flyer here. So it's called Submerged by Miguel del Ag- -- Miguel del Aguila. I should know how to pronounce that. I don't know why --Anyway, so it starts off like this dance music. And then there's this chord change. And it's li- -- the way that the musicians introduced it is that it's like falling into a body of water. And then from there the harp takes on a solo, and so it's like listening to everything from underwater and seeing all the colors and all the life. And then the flute and the viola players walked off the stage. And I thought they were just leaving space for the harp player to do her solo, but later on, we hear the flute playing and it turns out that they walked in from the back, and so they're standing at the back playing, like, little chirps and trills. And so combined with the harp, it's like being underwater, but you can still hear the noise on the surface. And that was really interesting to me, and it made me think that this is one area -- one thing you can do with live music that you can't do with recorded music. That physical change. Where the musicians go, and how that affects the sounds that you hear. So I'm really happy that MSU has programs that teach people how to play music, and I'm glad that we have a symphony orchestra. And I'm really happy to be part of a community that has those things.

We were living in an off campus apartment and it probably didn't have functional, uh, smoke detectors if I'm being honest. Um, but I was just doing something so simple. I was making hard boiled eggs. So I put the eggs on the stove, was waiting for the water to boil, and then I don't know what happened. I clearly got very distracted, but I fully like left the apartment, went shopping or something, like grocery shopping. I don't know. And it wasn't for what I was making. Like I had no memory of even putting the eggs on the stove. And I came home and I was actually living with that same person that burnt the meat and all of the water had evaporated from the eggs. And then, just in case you were wondering what happens if you just, like, continue to boil eggs without water, they exploded like bombs all over the ceiling. So there was like chunks of egg -- thankfully it was like -- they were -- they had been boiled obviously, so it wasn't, you know, like yolk that was caked on the walls. It was like chunks of egg that was easier to get off, but I came home to that roommate like picking egg off of the ceiling and, um, she was surprisingly good natured about it. Maybe she was remembering her mishap, but she wasn't really that upset which was a nice relief.

“Tell us about a time you thought you saw one thing, but it turned out to be something else.” Okay. Okay, it's food too for me. Okay, so I was at my Uncle's funeral. And at the church, like under- underneath it -- no, it wasn't underneath the church, must have been next to the church. So, there was the banquet hall basically like, where all the food was set up. And there was this bread that it -- I was like, "Holy s***! Chocolate bread? They make chocolate bread? I have never even dreamed about this before, like, this is amazing! Chocolate bread!" And so I got a few pieces, you know, and I sat down and I started eating this chocolate bread. I thought it was chocolate bread. I had never heard of anything called pumpernickel bread. It was so disgusting. I hated it. I was so angry. It was nothing like chocolate bread. I was just very upset. And ever since then, up until I, I was like in my 20s basically, I refused to eat pumpernickel bread because of it. Turns out, pumpernickel bread's pretty good, but because of that experience I was like, "I don't want it. Bad...feelings," you know what I mean?

You ask about if we'd ever been married. Yeah, I've been married for 47 years. And about our wedding day, that's always been a very interesting thing. My husband was in the military and Vietnam had just ended when we got married. And in order for me to go and visit him or be with him at all, I had to be -- we had to get married so I could be on to the military post and everything else. He had graduated from Michigan State's ROTC program. He was a newly minted second lieutenant. So he had like, no money and no power. But anyway. We were getting married and I was gonna teach junior high in southern Georgia, which I did do for three years while he was in the military. Our wedding was a lovely wedding in Northville, where I grew up, and, um, it was the hottest day of the summer, it was July 24th. And it was the hottest day of the summer and absolutely, positively miserable. The humidity was -- it was 93 degrees. And so was the humidity. It was so hot that our pastor told us later, many years later, that it was the shortest wedding he had ever performed. It took less than 20 minutes. He said to me that the entire sermon fit on a typed double-spaced page. Two -- or, page and a half of print. And he later, many years later, gave me a copy of the, of the sermon that he preached that day. But he said, "It's really not a sermon. It's more of a 'Here's what I have to say and let's get out of here ‘cause it's hot.'" He had fans running and the doors were all open because the church was not air-conditioned, but it was still a lovely wedding and it was, it was good.