Have you ever been to a pool or lake or something gross or dangerous? No, I mean, that's --I don't really like swimming in that. I'm always afraid of what might be in the water. I remember, I was in Hawaii one time and swimming in the ocean, which is kind of a cool experience. And all of a sudden I sort of had this panic attack like I didn't know what was around me, or under me. Basically I had no idea. And shortly after that panic attack, a turtle popped his head up within almost arm's length of me, and I just thought, okay, as cool as this is and it was, and I was kind of freaking out because I am so excited that the turtle was literally right there. I also kind of thought, okay there could be anything in this water. We have absolutely no idea what is around us so I really -- I really was sort of freaked out and very excited at the same time.

Do I think of myself more as a river or a lake? I think, a lake. And the reason why is I find lake sounds, ocean sounds, waves lapping to be very soothing to me. There's something about them, even when the lake -- Lake Superior when she's angry and she's just pounding the shore, it's just -- first of all, that's magnificent and it's just something about it that is soothing. River water, running, is fine. It just sounds too busy to me, I guess, I don't know. It's just I like being around water, no question. I like the river. If I had a preference, I would take the lake, there's just something about the lake. Maybe having grown up by Lake Superior makes a difference but it's just something about having that magnificent lake and in the -- during the gloaming, she's -- she's often just gently lapping the water, almost speaking to you, and then again, when she's angry, she pounds the shore like nobody's business and she lets you know. You have to grow up to respect Lake Superior. No question about it.