“We’re in a time of destroying the symbols of white supremacist thinking and our ugly past.”

I feel like some of this [taking down statues] again was inevitable, with the Black Lives Matter. And we need to figure out a solution. Again I don’t know what that is. I’ve always wanted to, and I need to find out who to communicate this to, but we need to erect memorials — and we’re in a time of destroying the symbols of white supremacist thinking and our ugly past.

I enjoyed in Germany how in Berlin they had evolved there. Some — I mean a lot of their you know, it’s very symbolic, you know, when a regime is changing, you know to pull down Stalin and Lenin and all those kind of things and to tear those down or take the heads off or whatever.

But if the point is to learn and remember things from our history even that they’re ugly, you know, I think I think it’s an interesting concept to change, keep the monument there and add some art to it to indicate that we’ve evolved from this other old way of thinking and that’s what I would like to see some creative art person erect some kind of statue or monument to recognize our ugly past and recognize those who have died as a result of slavery as a result of the genocide against the Native Americans against and other cultures that we’ve so badly treated yet tried to take from their culture.

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